Leif Pihl's Jeep TJ,
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At about 22K miles, I was told that I have another 20 thousand miles left of the tread on my factory Goodyear Wrangler RT/S P215/75R15 tires. Once these tires were worn, I was willing to spend money on replacing them with larger size tires, but my ego or enthuseasm for off-roading meant that I ended up replacing them early.
(At 23K miles, or around July 5 '98, I was also told the original tires had 22K miles left.)
31x10.50R15 BF Goodrich Radial AT TA mounted on my original 15x7" steel rims was my choice in new tires (with the Trail TA coming in at second place). Since I did not purchase new rims with a larger backspacing, this meant that I had to add machine washers at the steering stops.
Since I purchased my tires, The AT TA has been replaced by the AT TA KO.
Steering Stops & Washers
(58.3K & 168.4K)
The B. F. Goodrich A/T TAs seem to perform well in Minnesota's winters; including ICE (as well as snow). They seem to have some ability on the trails as well as being good-mannered on the road.
NOTE: There is 1.0" to 1.25" of additional (radius) space for larger tires to still fit on the stock spare tire mount. I may or may not actually purchase a fifth (Phase I) tire, but what ever choice I do make should be able to fit onto the factory spare tire mount. This means that the new tires may be UP TO 2 & 1/2 inches taller than Goodyear Wrangler RT/S P215/75R15, but no more.
(See "Future Plans" for an expected new tire carrier/bumper.)
{(30.5 - 27.5 = 3) / 2 = 1.5 inch radius of additional height from just the tires.}
+ 1.25 from the spring spacers
= 2.75 inches of total lift to my TJ.
FLOTATION/METRIC CONVERSION
This table is from page 70 of the December, 1996 edition of Four Wheeler Magazine.FLOTATION DIAMETER
(INCHES)METRIC SIZE 27x 8.50R14 26.5 225/75R14 27.5 215/75R15
This is the size tire I originally had.? 225/75R15
This is the 1st optional size tire I have could have factory ordered.29x 9.50R15 28.5 235/75R15 30x 9.50R15
This is the 2nd optional size tire I have could have factory ordered.29.5 245/75R15 31x10.50R15
(The size tire I did get.)30.5 265/75R15 32x11.50R15 31.5 295/75R15 33x12.50R15 32.5 315/75R15 33x12.50R16 32.8 285/75-16 Tires:
Q: What size tire can I fit on my Jeep without rubbing?
A: As a rule Rubicon recommends the following: TJ 4.5"= 33x12.5, TJ 3"=33x10.50(Although I did not choose it, Brian Hassing reccomended I look into the Goodyear 31x10.50R15 Wrangler AT/S tires, now in production. Check out the following link: http://www.goodyear.com/nat/pclt_cat/products/wrangler_ats_specs.html.)
Because of my 31" BFG AT TAs, I probably should have already installed a different Speedometer Gear (Mopar #52067633?) regardless of if and when I re-gear.
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Tire Diameter (Mopar part number: 520676xx) This table was derived from the TeraFlex catalog #82 (used with verbal permission). (Note: The "L" gears do not work in the 231 transfer case; my Jeep Dealer says that the gears listed in italics are not valid for a TJ.) |
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| 35" | 33" | 32" | 31" | 30" | 29" | 28" | 27" | ||
| 4:56 | SG35 | SG36 | SG37 | SG37 | SG38 |
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| 4:10 | SG33 | SG34 | SG35 | SG36 | SG37 | SG38 | SG39 | SG41 | |
| 3:73 | SG31 | SG32 | SG32 |
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SG34 | SG34 | SG35 | SG38 | |
| 3:55 | SG30 | SG31 | SG31 | SG32 | SG33 | SG33 | SG34 |
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| 3:07 | SG26L | SG26L | SG27L |
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(SG28?) |
SG28 | SG29 |
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I was once told that Daimler/Chrysler sends all TJs out the door with the 52067627 Speedometer gear, but I find it difficult to beleive that this is true. I've also been told that the original "215/75R15" tires I had on my Jeep came with the "33" speedo gear... the same gear that would me necessary if I used 31" tires and 3:73 gears, again I find this difficult to beleive.
8/18/99: I finally got around to removing my Spedometer gear and inspecting it: My TJ has a 30-tooth Speedo gear. Problem: I don't think that a 27-tooth gear is available from Daimler-Chrysler. I'll probably have to go aftermarket. Anyone know what 30 vrs. 27 teeth has been doing to my Odometer/Speedometer and/or engine computer's programming?
Once I get around to actually removing and examinging my existing speedo gear (i.e.: now), I'll make a decision as to which one to replace it with... OK, I admit it, I should have done so a long time ago.
| 52067625: | 25 teeth | My Jeep Dealer's parts dept. says that 52067625- & lower are not valid part numbers. (SG25 also may not be a valid Teraflex number.) | |
| 52067626: |
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My Jeep Dealer's parts dept. says this is not a valid part number. (But, SG26 may be a valid Teraflex number!) |
| 52067627: |
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My Jeep Dealer's parts dept. says this is not a valid part number. (But, SG27 may be a valid Teraflex number!) |
| 52067628: |
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30x9.5R15 Wrangler OWL |
| 52067629: |
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All 225 / 245 Tires |
| 52067630: |
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All 215 Tires |
| 52067631: |
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All 205 Tires |
| 52067632: |
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My Jeep Dealer's parts dept. says this is not a valid part number. (But, SG32 may be a valid Teraflex number!) |
| 52067633: |
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30x9.5R15Wrangler OWL Tires |
| 52067634: |
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P225/75R15 OWL Wrangler Tires, 3.73 axle ratio |
| 3.73 Axle Ratio | 30x9.5R15 Wrangler OWL Goodyear Tires | ||
| 52067635: |
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P215/75R15 OWL All Terrain, P215/75R15 RBL Wrangler, All 205 Tires. |
| 52067636: |
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P225/75R15 OWL Wrangler, P215/75R15 RBL Wrangler, P215/75R15 OWL All Terrain, Goodyear |
| 52067637: |
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P205/75R15 Wrangler RT Goodyear Tires |
| 52067638: |
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My Jeep Dealer's parts dept. says this is not a valid part number. (But, SG38 may be a valid Teraflex number!) |
| 52067639: |
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All 255/245 Tires |
| 52067640: |
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All 215 Tires |
| 52067641: | 41 teeth | 4.11 Axle Ratio | All 205 Tires |
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My Jeep Dealer's parts dept. says that 52067642 & higher are not valid part numbers. (SG42 also may not be a valid Teraflex number.) |
At some point in the future, I will probably replace the stock rims with aftermarket rims that have a larger backspacing. As of this writing, my favorite is the American Racing "Gambler". Thi is partly because I like the looks, and partly because it looks similar to the factory Gamblers. I was once told that my TJ needs a "5-4&1/2 Bolt Circle" pattern.
Below are listed four of the possible options (lugs not included).
I'll probably want to get part no. 52-5865.
| Part No. | Offset mm | Backside Setting | Size | Bolt Circle | List | W.D. |
| 52-5865 | -12 | 3 & 15/16 | 15x8 | 5-4&1/2 | $165.00 or $142.67? |
$117.00 |
| 52-5765 | 0 | 3 & 15/16 | 15x7 | 5-4&1/2 | $142.67 or $156.00? |
$107.00 |
| 52-5183+ | -44 | 3 & 3/4 | 15x10 |
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$161.33 | $121.00 |
| 52-5185+ | -38 | 3 & 15/16 | 15x10 |
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$161.33 | $121.00 |
5/7/2000:
Since I wrote the above section, I've come to the conclusion that I want 15x9 rims. This is not available in the Gambler, even if the Gamber was still available. What I do not know is what Offset and Backspacing I want/need to have. Here are two links that explain the topic:
"http://www.jrd.com.my/wheelfaqs.htm#",
"http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Wheel.html".
Image of my front pumpkin, arrow points to label for original 3.07 gear ratio
(will be replaced with 3.73).
(19.8K & 69.1K)
Image of Mopar's front Gearing parts
(NOT YET SCANNED IN).
(__K & __K)
Image of Mopar's rear Gearing parts
(NOT YET SCANNED IN).
(__K & __K)
I am very interested in the Power Trax No-Slip Diff. My plans are to wait several months after the inital release...
THEN I will replace both stock Open-Differentials with the NSD.
At the same time that I upgrade to the NSD, I HAD planed to also change my gearing. My stock gears are 3.07s. I thought that this was totally inappropriate for my 31" BFG AT TAs tires. I had planed on installing 3.73 gears at the same time that I have the No-Slip Diff installed in the front and back.
(Thank you to Bryan Hassing for tipping me off to the NSD.)
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